About this episode
Defining the Purpose of Maths with Susan Okereke
In this week’s episode, we invite Susan Okereke to open the conversation on whether students should study maths till age 18.
We explore enhancing numeracy levels in the UK and the positive effects that might have. Plus, we consider the societal impact of poor math skills and emotional responses to maths.
We also highlight the importance of welcoming mistakes and encouraging inclusivity within the classroom to build both confidence and competence among students and, ultimately, a supportive learning environment.
“Mathematics is not just about numbers, equations, or algorithms; it is about understanding the world and solving its challenges. It equips us with the critical thinking, logic, and problem-solving skills that shape informed citizens, innovative thinkers, and lifelong learners.”
Susan Okereke – mathematician, and podcast host
Meet our guest
Susan Okereke

As an experienced maths teacher and communicator, Susan, @DoTheMathsThing, aims to encourage thought and discussion about how we can improve numeracy levels in this country and how we can make maths more engaging in the classroom.
Susan is also a podcast host for Maths Appeal and a BBC Radio 4 puzzle writer. Susan is passionate about showing that maths is everywhere and for everyone.
Transcript link
The transcript of this episode is available here
Our intro/outro was produced by a talented young creative – check out his Soundcloud.
